http://flimgeeks.com/blog/sam-raimi-spider-man-movies-an-obituary/ Critical Media | Movies, TV, Games, Comics and anything else that matters Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:27:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://flimgeeks.com/blog/sam-raimi-spider-man-movies-an-obituary/comment-page-1/#comment-143 Joelex100 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:34:17 +0000 http://flimgeeks.com/blog/?p=2052#comment-143 Okay the Sandman is not a complex character. He is just a petty thug who becomes a sand monster, I am so sick of these snobby spiderman fans who act like everything from the sixties was fucking gold. Venom is as complex a character as doc ock if not more so in the comics doc ock is just a scientist who goes mad after an accident venom there is at least his desire to protect innocent people coupled with his hatred of spiderman that make him a complex character. You clearly have never read venom comics as you would know he was not just a snarling monster that was never the point of him. The only thing wrong with Venom was Brocks reason for hating spiderman thats it nothing else and really if raimi was such a good director he would have been able to change that. Instead he gave him an even less interesting reason for hating spidey and made him into nothing but a snarling monster this great director you go on about turned a character who in the comic books though wanting to kill spidey never hurt aunt may or mary jane because he could never bring himself to hurt an innocent into a character who literally say's "I like being bad it makes me happy" As for the first two films being great to be honest I thought they were lame. Filled with chessy garbage "aunt may is that an angel" Spidey 2 was even worse. I really don't know why everyone raves about doc ock in that film, he was boring. Talk about lack of humanity being a good guy who goes bad dosen't make you a really complex human character in fact its relatively simple he one minute was a nice guy then opps something goes wrong with his tenticles and the tenticles control him and make him into a supervillain. lazy boring actually less than other versions of doc ock like the 90's cartoons where we see him descend into madness on his own, without the tenticles. The rest of pidey 2 was boring just crap about mary jane being an actress I much preffered Tim Burtons Batman and Batman Returns. Again the Penquin in that film was complex but he wasn't a nice guy at all. I mean seriously you like the dark knight and you go on about Venom being an uncomplex character what would you call the joker in the dark knight who's origin is not even explained and just enjoys killing people. All of these spidey fans who look down on later spidey comics are just snobs they have decided as ridiculous as alot of 60's spiderman villains are just to think of them as these wonderful complex characters compared to the rest. I mean really this marvellous version of the joker in the dark knight I fail to see how he is any different from Carnage both are anarchists who want to kill people to prove that society should have no laws, I might add Carnage did that first though obviously The Joker as a charcter was first but in the comic books the joker never killed because he was an agent of chaos he just did it for his own reasons like in his first appearance he did to prove he was the greatest crook in town. Yet everyone loves the Joker in the Dark Knight and think of Carnage as the worst villain ever and as for these assholes who go on about the symbiote as being too ridiculous please a guy made of sand is more ridiculous. Seriously stop treating people who like venom and carnage as morons. I actually preffered Spidey 3 to the first two not because of venom but because I felt it did have a good story was more enjoyable and less up its on arse than the previous two and personally i Think people just decided to say it was bad because it was the third film. I mean really aren't you tired of just saying the same obvious crap all the time its always "first one great second one best third one bad" before its even out. Same with the X men film series X men three was a good film but all the critics just decided to hate it because it was the third one same with Blade and so many other franchises. Its just as well the audience at least dosen't always follow these stupid patterns. <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Okay the Sandman is not a complex character. He is just a petty thug who becomes a sand monster, I am so sick of these snobby spiderman fans who act like everything from the sixties was fucking gold. Venom is as complex a character as doc ock if not more so in the comics doc ock is just a scientist who goes mad after an accident venom there is at least his desire to protect innocent people coupled with his hatred of spiderman that make him a complex character. You clearly have never read venom comics as you would know he was not just a snarling monster that was never the point of him. The only thing wrong with Venom was Brocks reason for hating spiderman thats it nothing else and really if raimi was such a good director he would have been able to change that. Instead he gave him an even less interesting reason for hating spidey and made him into nothing but a snarling monster this great director you go on about turned a character who in the comic books though wanting to kill spidey never hurt aunt may or mary jane because he could never bring himself to hurt an innocent into a character who literally say's “I like being bad it makes me happy” As for the first two films being great to be honest I thought they were lame. Filled with chessy garbage “aunt may is that an angel” Spidey 2 was even worse. I really don't know why everyone raves about doc ock in that film, he was boring. Talk about lack of humanity being a good guy who goes bad dosen't make you a really complex human character in fact its relatively simple he one minute was a nice guy then opps something goes wrong with his tenticles and the tenticles control him and make him into a supervillain. lazy boring actually less than other versions of doc ock like the 90's cartoons where we see him descend into madness on his own, without the tenticles. The rest of pidey 2 was boring just crap about mary jane being an actress I much preffered Tim Burtons Batman and Batman Returns. Again the Penquin in that film was complex but he wasn't a nice guy at all. I mean seriously you like the dark knight and you go on about Venom being an uncomplex character what would you call the joker in the dark knight who's origin is not even explained and just enjoys killing people. All of these spidey fans who look down on later spidey comics are just snobs they have decided as ridiculous as alot of 60's spiderman villains are just to think of them as these wonderful complex characters compared to the rest. I mean really this marvellous version of the joker in the dark knight I fail to see how he is any different from Carnage both are anarchists who want to kill people to prove that society should have no laws, I might add Carnage did that first though obviously The Joker as a charcter was first but in the comic books the joker never killed because he was an agent of chaos he just did it for his own reasons like in his first appearance he did to prove he was the greatest crook in town. Yet everyone loves the Joker in the Dark Knight and think of Carnage as the worst villain ever and as for these assholes who go on about the symbiote as being too ridiculous please a guy made of sand is more ridiculous. Seriously stop treating people who like venom and carnage as morons. I actually preffered Spidey 3 to the first two not because of venom but because I felt it did have a good story was more enjoyable and less up its on arse than the previous two and personally i Think people just decided to say it was bad because it was the third film. I mean really aren't you tired of just saying the same obvious crap all the time its always “first one great second one best third one bad” before its even out. Same with the X men film series X men three was a good film but all the critics just decided to hate it because it was the third one same with Blade and so many other franchises. Its just as well the audience at least dosen't always follow these stupid patterns.

]]> http://flimgeeks.com/blog/sam-raimi-spider-man-movies-an-obituary/comment-page-1/#comment-128 reznik360 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:53:56 +0000 http://flimgeeks.com/blog/?p=2052#comment-128 For what it's worth, Spider-Man 2 is the *perfect* comic-book movie. That is all. ;) For what it's worth, Spider-Man 2 is the *perfect* comic-book movie. That is all. ;)

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